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Skater? Contemporary Artist?
Our Yama-chan went to America
Part 3
Who is Tetsuya Yamada?
Interview by Takei Goodman
(Continued from Part 2.
The final conclusion of an interview with contemporary artist Tetsuya Yamada, conducted by filmmaker Takei Goodman.

Takei Goodman (hereafter referred as Takei)

Yama-chan, what’s a typical day like for you?

Tetsuya Yamada (hereafter referred as Yamada)

When I have time, I’m usually at my studio.

Takei

What time do you usually wake up in the morning?

Yamada

Around 6 am. I make my kids’ lunch.

Takei

Do you have a rice cooker?

Yamada

I cook rice in a pot. I also make breakfast for my wife.

Takei

So you handle the housework. Do you go to the university every day?

Yamada

I try to do what I can. I teach two classes per semester. With occasional faculty meetings and meetings with graduate students, I’m on campus 2–3 days a week.

Takei

Sounds like a good setup. Where is your studio located?

Yamada

There’s a space that the university provides. Kind of like a lab, just like scientist have.

Akeem

Where do you get the materials for your work?

Yamada

It comes from various places. Financial resources often come from university grants. Occasionally, I receive funding from outside sources as well.

Akeem

So you get funding by applying.

Takei

Oh, Akeem! Speaking of which, Yama-chan, didn’t you get support from Tiffany Foundation, too? What about now?

Yamada

The Guggenheim Fellowship in 2023 was a big one. It provided significant support for my work.

Takei

You brought about ten students to Japan this time as part of your educational program and visited Kyoto, right? What’s your usual class schedule like?

Yamada

Yes, this time I traveled in Japan for three weeks with students as part of a global seminar, which is a three-credit course. We visited many places and had an incredible experience.
Typically, I teach two classes on campus per semester. Each class meets twice a week for 2.5 hours. The morning class runs from 9:05 a.m. to 11:35 a.m., and the afternoon class from 1:25 p.m. to 3:55 p.m. Usually, the morning session is for beginners, while the afternoon is for intermediate and advanced students.

Takei

Do you teach ceramic? Or painting?

Yamada

My background is in ceramics, and I was primarily hired for ceramics, so I teach ceramics. For graduate students, the program is more interdisciplinary and multimedia-based, so we discuss ideas, approaches, and so on.

TET

Do you think more people want to learn ceramics now than before?

Yamada

Ceramics has always been popular, at least at the beginner level

Takei

So your classes end at 3:55 pm, do you go straight home or go back to the faculty office?

Yamada

It depends. Sometimes I meet with graduate students, sometimes there are meetings, or I go home.

Takei

What about on days with no classes?

Yamada

I go to the studio in the morning.

Takei

Apparently, writer Taichi Yamada and manga artist Fujiko F. Fujio both stuck to a 9-to-5 routine even though they could have worked anytime they wanted, just to stay in sync with society.

Yamada

Sometimes that’s how it goes, too.

Takei

Do you have a creative routine?

Yamada

It depends on what I’m working on, but I avoid going to the atelier with nothing to do, so I always try to plan for the next move.

Takei

What’s your process to complete the work? It may be different each piece but how did you make this ceramic skatepark?

Left / “Model for Skatepark 1,” 2021. Fired clay. 18.5 × 16.5 × 2.5 inches. Right / “Model for Skatepark 2,” 2021. Fired clay. 19.75 × 16.75 × 2.75 inches.
photos by Caylon Hackwith
©Tetsuya Yamada and Midway Contemporary Art

Yamada

When I had a solo exhibition at Hair and Nails Gallery in Minneapolis, I wanted to create a show that drew on my experience with skateboarding, which was the starting point.

Takei

Did you have that idea from the start? Or did it come while working with clay?

Yamada

It depends, but usually I start with sketches to get my mind going. Sometimes I make small models first, then move on to making larger ones. With more complex pieces, planning the process becomes important.

Takei

土にこだわりはある?

Yamada

To some degree, but compared to those who are really obsessed, not so much. Though when it comes down to it, I guess I do get particular.

Takei

Clay is different in Japan and the U.S., right?

Yamada

Traditionally, in Japan, clay was often sourced locally. Depending on the region, some clays lack good plasticity, which naturally influences the character of the objects. These days, clay is frequently blended. For example, I’ve heard that in Mashiko, it's become difficult to dig for clay due to urban development. So they often mix the clay brought from Shigaraki.

Takei

What about the U.S.?

Yamada

Mostly blended. There is much more control to gain the plasticity, for example.

Takei

Is science or technology? Or is it more organic?

Yamada

Blending is fundamentally backed by science.

Takei

Clay is part of the earth, right? Do you feel the earth when you work?

Yamada

That’s an important concept.

Takei

It takes 100 years to build up 1 cm of topsoil, it’s crazy.

Yamada

Clay is gathered and transformed through various weathering and water processes.

Takei

In parts of Africa, it can take 1,000 years for just 1 cm. Clay is like the skin on the Earth, and you are shaping this precious thing with your hands.

Yamada

Once fired, clay never returns to its original state. It becomes something close to glass. That’s why we still find clay artifacts dating back 15,000 years. Iron and bronze corrode, but ceramics don’t, so they can last millennia.

Takei

That’s why we find ancient pottery.

Akeem

Yama-chan’s skatepark piece will outlast us.

Yamada

It’s timeless. Because it will last tens of thousands of years, I often say to my students, If the Earth and humanity still exist, what would humans tens of thousands of years from now think when they see this? That’s what we are creating.

Takei

Do you choose materials based on what you want to express?

Yamada

Yes, that’s right. Sometimes it’s physical desire, like wanting to touch clay or paint with a brush, and other times it begins with an idea. Physical materials and time both play a role. For example, during summer break, there’s more time, so I can take on projects that require a longer process. But when school is in session, the time is fragmented.

Takei

What’s most important when teaching students?

Yamada

Understanding each student’s human nature and figuring out how to support them based on that. Not a one-way approach like the old Japanese education, I try to help them find even the smallest moments of confidence to build off of. If they can gain little bits of confidence throughout the semester, by the end, you can really see how much they’ve grown.

Takei

You are a great teacher. What about your own daughters?

Yamada

When you see them every day, it’s not so easy. With students, there’s more distance, which helps with the approach. But I try my best within my capabilities. These days, there’s so much emphasis on success, and young people don’t know how to deal with failure, and lose confidence easily, so I try to listen and encourage them. Understanding each person’s unique individuality is important.

Takei

You even listen to their inner voices.

Yamada

I’m most interested in human nature. Ultimately, I want to nurture their humanity. That’s where my deepest interest lies.

T-shirts featuring Yamada’s work, a Knox College T-shirt, a book of his artwork, a THRASHER magazine that featured him, and a postcard from Yamada with recent updates – all cherished items brought by Takei.

Tetsuya Yamada

An additional family member, Mei, is a rescue dog from Kentucky. She is named after the younger sister in “My Neighbor Totoro.”

Takei Goodman

These days, when he has time, he focuses on organizing old video footage he filmed years ago.

photo: Takeshi Abe

text: Tamio Ogasawara